Power Lift! The Battle in Bowling Green Gets Physical!
You’ve heard all the clichés.
“Don’t tell me what you can do, show me!”
“Put your money where your mouth is!” And so on.
In this particular battle, it’s a simple test of brute strength out in the open for all to see. Out in the middle of an arena. Power lift. Raise the heavy concrete block up to the bar or back off. ‘Nuff said.
Five compact track loaders – Bobcat, Cat, New Holland and Case – took on John Deere in this uplifting contest.
You can see what happens. Surprised? What would YOUR CTL do with a pair of forks and a big, bad block like this?
Tell us!
Why don’t you put the pallet forks all the way in on the Case Machine and New Holland? If the Deere had that much gap between the block and the back of the pallet forks, it wouldn’t lift it either.
Nice try, TRY AGAIN!!!!!
But make it FAIR!
[MODERATOR'S COMMENT] All the machines in Bowling Green were operated by local operators who run the same brand of skid steers in their daily work as they did at our Skid Steer Smackdown event. The Case operator didn’t position the block against the pallet stop, but this Case model will not lift the weight regardless of block positioning in our machine evaluations. The New Holland operator does place the block against the backstop on his third lift attempt on the video.]
As soon as I saw this video, I figured we’d be hearing from some Case fans who would cry foul. To me it just shows what kind of operators are drawn to Case’s stone age technology machines!
Nice try Case, want to try again????
you still ain’t tested no gehls i’m startin to think that you are chikin and need to get a real skidsteer and see what it will do
once i saw this video i was kind of unhappy deere won without a struggle. lets get a Takeuchi TL250 aka a real skid steer in there and lets see how deere goes. nothing beats a Takeuchi or is deere too scared that they will lose. good job!!!!!! case better luck next time.
Gehlman and Tak lover, you guy are both operating the same machine with only 3500 lbs of operating capacity. If you want to compete, try competing with the Deere CT322 the smaller machine. If Tak and Gehl made a machine that was rated as the others were, maybe Deere would think about putting them in a video. I have owned them all and no one has the lifting or push power of the Deere. Remember the Deere is doing all of this with only 82hp. Gehl is a 98hp machine that can only do what a Deere CT322 @ 66hp does. Bobcat is a 92 hp, CAT is a 94hp, Case is a 90hp machine. It seems the Deere with only 82 hp can outwork them all, and still not use as much fuel. Nice try all of you guys!
what size gehl is that since you know all about skidsteers
Would guess he’s referring to a CTL80/Tak 150, which, again, I don’t really consider a Gehl machine. A yellow Tak gives you no indication of the abilities/quality of an actual Gehl built unit.
I agree with takeuchi lover and gehlman101, where’s takeuchi and gehl and mustang? personaly i like takeuchi because of its hand controls
I agree with everyone. Where are the Takeuchi machines? I have run Gehls and I was not impressed but I know first hand that Tak builds the nastiest mini-excavator so I can only imagine that there CTL must be quite a competitor. But I will admit Deere has them beat with the vertical lift arms. Those are real nice for loading trucks.
You didnt include the komatsu skidsteer and some outher brands of skidsteers.
How can you call yourself the best if you don’t even compete against all of the other brands. Where is the JCB Skid Steer? In my opinion the JCB Skid Steer is far superior then all of the rest. If this was a true contest you would compare all of them. Lets be fair guys.
hook a Tak TL250 to a Deere and it will tow the deere all around the yard. As for the Case, I’m not sure I believe the moderator. The 450CT seemed to have no problem lifting the weight, it was the tipping that caused problems. I’m guessing the ten inch gap between the weight and the fork rack may have had something to do with this. Just seems like Deere is not being completely honest with us.
This is a cool site. I own a landscaping company and am in the process of selecting new equipment. So far I have tested all the major players, CAT, Gehl, New Holland, Volvo, Takeuchi, Deere, Case, and Bobcat. Volvo hands down has the nicest fit and finish and the best interior. Deere is the best all rounder. Very good fit and finish, good value for the dollar, friendliest dealers, and plenty of capacity for hardscaping applications.
The machines I’m looking at are in the 4 to 5 ton range. The big dogs. For smaller jobs I use a MT55. How about looking into the MT55 class machine Deere? Save me a 4 hour drive everytime I need to get it fixed. For sure you guys can come up with something better than the Toro Dingo!
I work for a landscaping company and we have all Deere machines. Two 325’s, a CT 322, three 317’s and a 313 along with a two 35D, a 50D and a 17D mini excavators. For the skidsteers I really like the power they have, the breakout force, the balance, the visibility and especially the lifing cap. We can use a 317 to lift a 3400lb interlock skid off a flatbed truck, we have moved and placed armor stone that a Bobcat T250 couldn’t budge, so I am a Deere fan so far. I would like to see all the players included tho. Brands like JCB, Komatsu, Gehl, Volvo, Takeuchi, heck even toss a Thomas in there for the heck of it. The Deere Ct332 wins the tracked comp over a Tak cause it has more tipping load and higher bucket break out force., A Gehl 7810 is a monster tho.
The Case was at a dissadvantage from the start. Its the only machine that doesn’t have the vertical lift boom its the only radial lift. As it lifts the weight got to the point where its further out from the machine were the veritcal lift keeps the load at the same distance infront of the machine all thoughtout the the booms range.
I laughed at all the heavy lift shows of force, yes the Deere’s are impressive, BUT, would you want a rookie or even a seasoned operator lifting that much weight around? And then showing off to his friends only to flip or seriously damage the machine? Not me.
If the other names in the competition couldn’t lift that weight, I think that’s safer.
Let’s not forget that Deere’s loader reaches out higher as the loader goes up, so even if it hasn’t lifted its max. tipping weight, it will indeed tip as the load goes higher.
That was always a selling point for me with Bobcat and Cat, they both get their loaders to the max. reach 4 feet off the ground, so if it’s going to tip, it will be a at a lower and safer height than the Deere. A good example is lifting pallets of brick to scaffolding, would you really want to try to lower your heavy load down from a height of 130+ inches with out hitting the scaffolding, or lower the heavy load from 48″? I still prefer the Cat and Bobcat loader design.
And besides, Deere operators still can NOT see their back end of the tracks with the loaders down.
[MODERATOR'S COMMENT: The John Deere patented Vertical Lift boom actually lifts from the ground straight up along a vertical path, and then just slightly prior to reaching peak lift height (4 inches from the top), the boom moves just slightly away from the machine for max reach to load the center of a dump truck or hopper. This helps allow the bucket to be fully dumped the entire 90 degrees without the bottom of the bucket coming in contact with the inside of the dump truck rails.]
Since my last comment it seems we still have some mis-belivers. It is funny that the above statement says I like to purchase machines that are not as good as some others. This demo was 4′ off of the ground at truck bed height.
To the Gehl, Mustang, and Tak lovers. You guys know you are all driving exactly the same machine painted different colors, so why not buy the cheapest of all three, the Mustang. Again the Gehl CTL85, Tak TL250, and the Mustang MTL325 only have a tipping load of 7056 lbs, where the JD CT332 has a tipping load of 9200lbs. Those 3 machines again all have 98hp and can’t lift squat. Better luck getting into a competition when you get a big enough machine to compete with someone.
To S-moe: A Gehl is a Tak. If you didn’t care for the Gehl machine, then you wouldn’t like the Tak.
Nice 5″ gap on the brute force lift with the Case and New Holland Machines.
Without that Gap, I garantee the CASE will outlift the John Deere. True, it was the operators fault, but honestly, who is dumb enough to not get fully into a palletized load.
So to make the competition fair next time, use CASE or NH factory drivers to go with your JD factory driver. Then we will see who slaps who!
From running all of the head to head at my Ranch, I chose the Case 465 SSL over the Bobcat 300 and the JD 3XX series.
It’s a more robust constructed machine than the others, and pound for pound more hydraulic reserve power.
The Direct driven Cummins motor retains 60% Hyd Power even at low revs like the John Deere, Bobcat with the belt drive needs to rev up to get the same power.
I have no remorse in my purchase. I love my JD Tractor, and Deere has no equal there, but when it comes to SSL’s Case has them beat.
[MODERATOR'S COMMENT: As previously posted, all the machines in Bowling Green were operated by local operators who run the same brand of skid steers in their daily work as they did at our Skid Steer Smackdown event. The Case operator didn’t position the block against the pallet stop, but this Case model will not lift the weight regardless of block positioning in our machine evaluations.]
Couple things:
1. Bobcat INVENTED the skid steer loader. Can’t we at least credit them with that?
2. You forgot ease of changing attachments.
3. You forgot attachments
4. Bobcat is the only skid steer made in the USA
5. Why on earth would you lift something that heavy that high?
[MODERATOR'S COMMENT: John Deere Skid Steers and CTLs are manufactured in Dubuque, Iowa.]